ISTA质疑Unsloth的DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017基准对比
ISTA表示,其DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017基准测试采用128K上下文窗口、50档推理强度和最高128K令牌的输出预算。它将测试结果与Unsloth已发布对比之间的差异归因于约束条件不同,称Unsloth设置了严格的32K推理预算,并否认使用隐性超参数调整偏袒自家模型。ISTA表示代码可在GitHub获取、论文已发布至arXiv,目前正在进行更多比较,并邀请外界按照其公布的设置独立复现。
ISTA的解释为核实性能差异提供了可测试的方法,但目前尚未得到独立验证。解读这些基准结果时,需要考虑双方不同的输出和推理约束。
We have noticed recent comparisons published by Unsloth that do not align with our results for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017. So just if it is not obvious: we did of course not modify any hyperparameters to favor our models. We used standard settings appropriate for a model of this scale (763B parameters) and its 1M context length capability: a 128K context window and a reasoning effort set to 50.
To the best of our knowledge, the discrepancy in performance stems from a difference in benchmark constraints - not in the model being worse. Unsloth's comparisons has a strict 32K token reasoning budget, whereas our benchmarks allow up to 128K output tokens. This significant difference in compute explains the variance in results; it is not due to any hidden adjustments on our part. Furthermore, imposing such a low reasoning budget (32K) appears inconsistent for a model designed with a 1M context window and 763B params.
Our primary goal is open collaboration and transparency. All of our code is available on GitHub, and our papers are on arXiv. We are genuinely happy that other quantizations are performing well, as this was a key motivation for publishing these models in the first place. We invite anyone with the compute resources to reproduce our results using our exact settings (128K output budget, reasoning effort 50) for independent verification. Our previous models were benchmarked by third parties like Benjamin Marie (The Kaitchup), who do great work for the community. We welcome rigorous testing of our claims. Furthermore, we are currently running the comparisons on the models within our setup and will post results soon.
Thanks and stay tuned!
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