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Near-Zero Embeddings Reportedly Stall Gated-Model Training

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A paper by Xin Liu and five coauthors surveys 291 open-weight language-model repositories, finding that 52.6% of untied gated and hybrid checkpoints contain reachable input embeddings with norms below 10^-6, compared with 0% of weight-tied models. The authors report that, in gated sequence models such as Mamba, Gated DeltaNet and xLSTM, near-zero embeddings can amplify input gradients, cause FP32 clipping to overflow to infinity and discard a batch’s gradients. During Telugu continual pretraining of Nemotron-3-Nano-4B, the paper reports discarded updates on approximately 20% of steps. The authors propose GroupClip for released checkpoints and GateFloor for pretraining, reporting recovered updates, reduced near-zero gradients and comparable perplexity in their experiments.

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The paper identifies a concrete mechanism by which near-zero embeddings can interrupt updates in gated sequence models and reports two remedies for different stages of the model lifecycle.

Computer Science > Machine Learning

arXiv:2611.04449 (cs)

[Submitted on 3 Nov 2026]

Title:Near-Zero Token Embeddings Silently Stall Training in Gated Sequence Models

Authors:Xin Liu, Boyuan Sun, Yuxin Wang, Haoran Song, Mingjian Zhao, Mengyu Liu

View a PDF of the paper titled Near-Zero Token Embeddings Silently Stall Training in Gated Sequence Models, by Xin Liu and 5 other authors

#Mamba#Gated DeltaNet#xLSTM#Nemotron-3-Nano-4B#GroupClip#GateFloor#PyTorch#Hugging Face Trainer#FSDP2#AdamW

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